In episode 012 of Who is agile I have a chat with Jason Yip
I love this conversation, Jason really made me think and our conversation has already changed how I talk as an agile coach.

– We discussing talking about using salt with someone who has never tasted it and how this is similar to talking about agile.
(Reminds me also of the episode with Rebecca Wirfs-Brock and one of the books she discussed.)
– Creating better a much more productive learning environment
– What professions save more life
– Setting up systems that are more systemically safe and how that influences how we work
– How to coordinate at a large scale.

• That is the essence of our method/philosophy
• Clean up as you go
• Reducing the space between problems and problem solvers
• When I say agile, I think about 4 things
• How do I get closer to the problem
• The best way to deal with a win-lose situation is…
• How do spies problem solving
• If that value is important, it’s not appropriate to be blind
• Anyone who understands how complex systems work, become consequentialists
• Behind the scenes, what I call sneakiness
• There is agile stuff that requires a little sneakiness
• What is a commodity is a business strategy
• I start spreading it
• Which is really the last thing they should be thinking about
• An expansion of the structure should follow a strategy
• When I reflect on the past, it’s more to learn from the approach
• I tend not to think about what I have done in the past
• I want things to be better
• No numbers will help you create a correct theory if you don’t understand the problem
• Key metrics can be useful, yet if you first need to understand the problem
• There is a fundamental thing that comes before the numbers
• The bigger problem is to understand the role or better to understand the problem
• That is the biggest thing to worry about
• This is a hard problem
• If this space is large enough, Gemba walks no longer make sense scaling wise
• You stop losing connection with what the front line is like
• How do you set up a system that is more reliable (than being careful)
• There is a perceived safety from being very carefully (that is not reliable at scale)
• I wonder if people underestimate the power of a source control system
• The costs of the mistakes are dropped dramatically
• I like version control
• More industries should invent an undo button
• There is no undo button
• Hardware is more expensive to make a mistakes
• You have to be smart
• What profession saves the most people
• you have to roll with it
• You are probably not that good at it
• The teaches shaping the environment: helping connect the stuff
• It’s impossible
• You don’t coach something you can’t do.
• You learn more from your peers
• Sometimes I go from step 1 to step 10 and nobody can follow
• The teacher teaches senior students and they teach junior students
• Growing junior engineers from the @GergelyOrosz
• Where is the debate
• Agile should be a reflective practice approach
• It’s hard to tell someone that never tasted salt, how salt tastes

Jason invites:

• John Cutler
• Jeff Patton
• Patrick Kua
• Dragan Stepanović